[Propertalk] Gospel Quotes for Mark 9:38-50 - Part 5

Joe Parrish JoeParrish at compuserve.com
Sat Sep 26 22:12:31 EDT 2009


Tripping Up Others

It was just an off-hand comment, an aside to a friend at church about how so-and-so made a fool of herself in the Sunday School meeting. She thought no one else was listening. She didn't realize that the target of her comment was around the corner hearing every word. He didn't intend to scare off the worship guests, the young couple who sat down timidly and fumbled with the bulletin. But they were in his seat. He glared at them through the entire service. In these and many other ways we put stumbling blocks before other believers (v. 42). 

http://www.crossings.org/theology/2009/theolo748.shtml

Paige G. Evers, 2009
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The same dynamic applies to our lives as gay Catholics.
Experientially, we encounter the Lord, and that encounter seems to contradict the precepts of the insiders.  Does that mean that we should cherish the experience as something private and particular to us, and continue to live our own lives, in a kind of separate dispensation, apart from the larger church community?

I don't think so.  Not at all.

http://gospelforgays.com/?p=517

Jeremiah Bartram, 2009
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This is a very uncomfortable reading, for two reasons.
First, Jesus speaks categorically of hell - and we don't like to think about that.  We don't like to believe that the sweet and kindly Father figure of our dreams could possibly create such a place, much less assign anyone to it.
And secondly - I guess I'm speaking personally here - the standard Jesus imposes in this reading is uncomfortably rigorous.  I think of Origen, not considered an early Church Father, but nonetheless a big mind and major teacher in his day.  He castrated himself because of this passage - and it's hard to dispute his logic. 

http://gospelforgays.com/?p=506

Jeremiah Bartram, 2009
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THE TASK OF THE CHURCH IS TO MAKE DISCIPLES OF THE UNCHURCHED. SOME might add we must make disciples of the churched as well.

http://www.luthersem.edu/word&world/Archives/14-3_Sex/14-3_Juel.pdf

Donald H. Juel, 1994
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Traditionalists hold that the unrighteous are destined to eternal physical and spiritual torment,
while conditionalists say that the unrighteous will cease to exist (after God's judgment, or after
some period of torment). Judkins discusses passages used to support each view. Traditionalists
understand Revelation 20:13-14 to mean that the torment in the lake of fire will be continual and is
the fate of all the unrighteous. Conditionalists understand these verses to claim that death and hell
themselves will be cast into the lake of fire and, therefore, cease. Other theologies of hell have been
proposed, but the traditionalist and conditionalist views are the most widely accepted among
Christians. Perhaps this is because each of them so strongly encourages the evangelical impetus of
our faith.

http://www.baylor.edu/christianethics/HeavenHellstudyguide4.pdf

Robert B. Kruschwitz, 2002
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In the ATHANASIAN CREED (the Trinitarian creed which is occasionally recited on Trinity Sunday), in the next to the last paragraph of that creed, it says: "Those who have done good will enter eternal life, those who have done evil will enter eternal fire." The other two creeds (Apostles' Creed and Nicene Creed) only talk about Jesus returning to judge the living and the dead and not about the eternal fires.  

http://www.sermonsfromseattle.com/series_b_millstones_GA.htm

Edward F. Markquart
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