[Propertalk] Sermon quotes on the Gospel for October 18: Part 1

Joe Parrish JoeParrish at compuserve.com
Sat Oct 17 16:46:21 EDT 2009


...greatness among Jesus' followers is measured by their ability to live as servants and slaves, even if that life means suffering oppression at the hands of those who wield power. Jesus has spoken in similar terms in 9:33-37, where he compares himself to a child, an image of powerlessness and vulnerability.

http://www.workingpreacher.org/preaching.aspx?lect_date=10/18/2009&tab=4

Matt Skinner
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In the Old Testament, one's "cup" (v. 38) is one's lot assigned by God, be it blessing or condemnation. Here, Jesus is speaking of his suffering and death. To be baptised with Jesus' baptism is to share fully in God's ways. 

http://montreal.anglican.org/comments/archive/bpr29m.shtml

Chris Haslam 
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Verse 45: "ransom": The Greek word, lytron, conveys the idea of deliverance by purchase on behalf of a captive, slave or criminal. [NJBC] During the Last Supper, Jesus says: "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many" (14:24). See also Luke 4:18 and 1 Timothy 2:5-6.

http://montreal.anglican.org/comments/archive/bpr29l.shtml

Chris Haslam 
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This time Jesus responds to the disciples' cluelessness with a very difficult question: Are they able to drink the same cup and be baptized with the same baptism that he has received? Their response is embarrassingly quick: "We are able." Here, again, they seem to have no idea what Jesus is talking about. Of all the commentaries on this text, Marcus Borg is most effective at explaining something of the meaning of Jesus' words in his own setting and in our lives as his disciples today. Both of these terms, "drinking the cup" and "baptism," Borg writes, were "images for death." 

http://i.ucc.org/StretchYourMind/OpeningtheBible/WeeklySeeds/tabid/81/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/242/Great-Service-Oct-1218.aspx

Kate Huey 
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"drink the cup undergo the baptism ": As the cup in the Gethsemane narrative (14: 36) already carries the implication of acceptance of execution, so must we also understand that baptism, as in the teaching of Paul (Rom 6:3), carries the very same implication. Jesus asks the two disciples if they are able to do this, but it seems evident that they do not understand the implication, inasmuch as they look toward the glorious age-to-come and a kingship of Jesus, the high privilege of which they wish to share. In his response Jesus indicates that in time James and John will come to accept execution for the sake of Jesus and the gospel, but privileges in the age-to-come are not and cannot be his own or the disciples' concern at this point in their respective destinies.

http://artsci.wustl.edu/~cwconrad/Mark/mk8notes.html#anchor1788359

Carl W. Conrad
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v35-37: Ched Myers (1988, p279) sees an allusion to Psalm 110 in the first two verses:




     1 The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet." 2 The LORD will extend your mighty scepter from Zion; you will rule in the midst of your enemies.(NIV)  

In Psalm 110:6 the Lord sits in judgment on his enemies, just as James and John ask for here. In Mk 12:35 this same passage becomes the basis for a discussion of Jesus' Davidic relationship. 

http://www.michaelturton.com/Mark/GMark10.html#10.p.35.45

Michael A. Turton
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...some years ago I received a short article adapted from Herold Percy, "Good News People," which makes a contrast between "maintenance" and "mission".
  1. In measuring the effectiveness, the maintenance congregation asks, "How many pastoral visits are being made? The mission congregation asks, "How many disciples are being made?"

  2. When contemplating some form of change, the maintenance congregation says, "If this proves upsetting to any of our members, we won't do it." The mission congregation says, "If this will help us reach someone on the outside, we will take the risk and do it."

http://www.crossmarks.com/brian/mark10x35.htm

Brian Stoffregen
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