[OLDCATH-L] _SOME_ Anglicans in Australia Unanimously Vote to Beco...
Sam'l B
samlb at samlb.ws
Thu Feb 18 22:24:44 EST 2010
On 02/18/2010 05:06 PM, ORCB1 at aol.com wrote:
> And yes, it did
> create a sense of glee among some in the Curia who can pat themselves on
> the back for their "perseverance" in bringing Christian Unity (read that
> as submission to the Roman Pontiff) one step closer
The ones w ho can't accept that the Roman Empire is DEADD, DEAD,
DEADm and the Pope ain't the Emperor.
> As for the folks who
> "swim the Tiber", God Bless them and wish them luck as they get situated
> in their new second class status and bear the resentment of the many
> celibate Roman clergy.
Agreed -- the news item said that they would be keeping their
bishops, which is very much NOT how I understand it -- Anglican
bishops have been accepted by Rome as _PRIESTS_.
They can also commiserate with the forced-into-celibacy clergy of the
Byzantine Rites of the Roman Communion.
+Sam'l
Grace and Peace! +Francis
> In a message dated 2/18/2010 2:56:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> samlb at samlb.ws writes:
>
> I am not surprised that "Forward in Faith" has taken this step --
> what +David Robardts says about their experience: "In Australia we
> have tried for a quarter of a decade to get some form of episcopal
> oversight but we have failed… We're not really wanted any more, our
> conscience is not being respected." -- is also true of FIF in the
> British Isles, and of several groups in the US.
>
> Unlike +Facione, I do not see the phenomenon of Anglicans
> "swimming the Tiber" to join the Roman Communion as a devious plot by
> the Roman Curia to destroy Anglicanism -- although I imagine there has
> been a great deal of gleeful hand-rubbing in Rome -- but as the result
> of the unwillingness of the wildly illiberal wing in power to abide
> by the terms of the "Anglican Compromise" (Everyone be polite, and be
> nice to others who disagree with one) worked out in the reign of
> Elizabeth I.
>
> I predict that the Evangelical (Low-Church, crypto-Presbyterian)
> wing will be the next target. They won't go to Rome, however.. :)
>
> +S.B.Bassett
>
> On 02/17/2010 10:03 PM, +Marty wrote:
> >
> >
> > Interesting application not in the original documents ~ reference
> bishops.
> >
> > May God Bless You,
> >
> > */+Marty/*
> >
> > For the Greater Glory of God
> >
> > http://www.catholic.org/images/imgs/dotted_divider.gif
> >
> > http://www.catholic.org/images/imgs/dotted_divider.gif
> >
> > Forward in Faith Anglicans in Australia Unanimously Vote to
> Become Catholic
> >
> > By Deacon Keith Fournier
> > 2/18/2010
> >
> > *Catholic Online (www.catholic.org <http://www.catholic.org>)*
> >
> > They will come into full communion with the Catholic Church while
> > maintaining aspects of their liturgical distinctives and Anglican
> Ethos.
> >
> > Catholic Bishop Peter Elliott who will oversee this historic process.
> > <http://www.catholic.org/photos/photo.php?news=35460>
> > Catholic Bishop Peter Elliott who will oversee this historic process.
> >
> > SYDNEY, Australia (Catholic Online) – It has been an historic
> week for
> > the Church in Australia and around the world. The move of many
> Anglican
> > Christians into full communion with the Catholic Church has taken a
> > decided move forward.
> >
> > In an interview with the Daily Telegraph, Bishop David Robarts
> OAM, the
> > chairman of Forward in Faith Australia, explained that members of
> that
> > Anglican association in Australia have decided they could no
> longer move
> > forward in faith as a part of an Anglican Church in Australia
> which was
> > not being faithful.
> >
> > The Bishop explained that the Anglican Church was moving away from
> > orthodox Christian belief and practice and leaving them behind: "In
> > Australia we have tried for a quarter of a decade to get some form of
> > episcopal oversight but we have failed… We're not really wanted any
> > more, our conscience is not being respected."
> >
> > The Bishop continued, "We're not shifting the furniture, we're simply
> > saying that we have been faithful Anglicans upholding what Anglicans
> > have always believed - and we're not wanting to change anything,
> but we
> > have been marginalized by people who want to introduce
> innovations. We
> > need to have bishops that believe what we believe."
> >
> > So, on Sunday, February 13, 2010, Forward in Faith Australia voted
> > unanimously to accept the invitation extended by Pope Benedict XVI in
> > his historic Constitution, /Anglicanorum Coetibus/. They will now
> take
> > the next step in entering into the full communion of the Catholic
> Church.
> >
> > The entire process of following the directions set forth in the
> > Apostolic Constitution is being presided over by Catholic Bishop
> Peter
> > Elliott. This Anglican group will now make Church history. They will
> > come into full communion with the Catholic Church while maintaining
> > aspects of their liturgical distinctives and Anglican Ethos.
> >
> > Bishop Elliott explained the process in a recent article he wrote for
> > the publication of the Traditional Anglican Communion:
> >
> > /"The Pastor of the nations (Pope Benedict XVI) is reaching out
> to give
> > you a special place within the Catholic Church. United in
> communion, but
> > not absorbed – that sums up the unique and privileged status former
> > Anglicans will enjoy in their Ordinariates. /
> >
> > /"Catholics in full communion with the Successor of St Peter, you
> will
> > be gathered in distinctive communities that preserve elements of
> > Anglican worship, spirituality and culture that are compatible with
> > Catholic faith and morals. Each Ordinariate will be an autonomous
> > structure, like a diocese, but something between a Personal Prelature
> > (as in Opus Dei, purely spiritual jurisdiction), or a Military
> > Ordinariate (for the Armed Forces). /
> >
> > /"In some ways, the Ordinariate will even be similar to a Rite (the
> > Eastern Catholic Churches). You will enjoy your own liturgical
> "use" as
> > Catholics of the Roman Rite. At the same time your Ordinaries,
> bishops
> > or priests, will work alongside diocesan bishops of the Roman
> Rite and
> > find their place within the Episcopal Conference in each nation
> or region."/
> >
> > These members of Forward in Faith, Australia, will be accompanied
> on the
> > journey to full communion by members of the Traditional Anglican
> > Communion and others from the Anglican Church in Australia.
> >
> > They have established a "working group" which, under the
> supervision of
> > Bishop Elliott and the direction of the Holy See, will establish the
> > process of establishing an Anglican Ordinariate in Australia. It may
> > become a prototype for similar Anglican Ordinariates in other
> parts of
> > the world.
> >
> > Bishop David Robarts told the Daily Telegraph, "I love my Anglican
> > heritage, but I'm not going to lose it by taking this step."
> >
> > After the release of the Apostolic Constitution Anglicanorum
> Coetibus,
> > the Anglican Bishops of Ebbsfleet and Richborough issued a call for a
> > Day of Prayer and Discernment on Monday 22nd February. February
> 22d is
> > the Feast of the Chair of Peter. These are historic times.
> >
> >
>
>
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