[Oldcath-l] Oldcath-l Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1
Bishop Anthony
xlnctony at uacatholicchurch.org
Thu Aug 6 18:41:55 EDT 2009
This is a wonderful statement! Where does it come from?
+Tony
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From: oldcath-l-bounces at stsams.org [mailto:oldcath-l-bounces at stsams.org] On
Behalf Of George Lucey
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:33 PM
To: oldcath-l at stsams.org
Subject: Re: [Oldcath-l] Oldcath-l Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1
Each man, called by God and his church to service in the priesthood, is
compelled to make of himself a gift. As Pope Paul VI wrote, the candidate
must have a "clear and determined desire to dedicate himself completely to
the service of the Lord" (Summi Dei Verbum, USCC, P. 10). Once this has been
properly discerned, the Vocation Director will work closely with the
candidate to ensure his gift is given in the spirit of integrity,
selflessness and with a healthy sense of detachment and preparedness. The
candidate is invited to fully embrace all the seminary as well as the
diocese offers in order to perfect the gift of himself he desires to give to
God and his people. Ultimately, his formation to the priesthood is his own
responsibility. Nobody knows the candidate better than himself. With a
mature attitude and with a vision to the future, the candidate must work
hard to prepare himself to receive Holy Orders. In this light, the details
of each candidate's formation will vary from man to man. Information
regarding the admissions process, seminaries, academic requirements and
programs for priestly formation are available upon request.
from the diocese of Lafayette in In. Maybe this will help.
I am having my seminarians pursue their studies at the Newark School of
Theology. It is reputable and cost effective and I have been asked to be
part of the faculty, and can have regular progress reports.
Perhaps we should think about pooling our resources and creating a low
residency seminary granting an actual degree. We might be able to affiliate
with the Graduate Theological Foundation in In.
Blessings,
+George
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> 1. What to do (Bishop Anthony)
> 2. Re: What to do (Sam'l B)
> 3. Re: What to do (Fr. Gregory Ned Blevins)
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> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:55:34 -0400
> From: "Bishop Anthony" <xlnctony at uacatholicchurch.org>
> Subject: [Oldcath-l] What to do
> To: "Old Cath List" <oldcath-l at stsams.org>
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> Had not seen much on the list so I thought I would throw a problem out for
> discussion.
>
>
>
> I have a Deacon that has had a series of health challenges over the past
> year. I waited to hear from the Deacon, sent 2 official letters one
removing
> them from the seminary program, the second saying the deacon would be put
on
> our inactive list by a certain date, along with regular Church mailings. I
> heard nothing.
>
>
>
> I thought to give it one more try and emailed. This time received a
> response! We met and went through the regular its not my fault stuff and I
> was sick. I asked the Deacon what was I to do? And of course they want to
> pick up right where they left off (after almost a year of absence) and
study
> for ordination.
>
>
>
> So I asked the vocation question, ?Why do you want to be Ordained.? What
> followed was on going ramblings of about 5 minutes which boils down to,
that
> it is the highest and most amazing thing a person could do to bring down
the
> God-head and for worship and the fact that the Deacon just HAD to be able
to
> do this, then at the last second as if an after thought, ?so I can do this
> for people.?
>
>
>
> Obviously this person is in no way ready to even be a Deacon much less a
> priest.
>
>
>
> What are your recommendations? Should I give this Deacon a chance? Help
them
> to see that a vocation is not about self but about God and his people? Or
> just drop them?
>
>
>
> Thanks for all of your thoughts on this issue!
>
>
>
> +Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Most Reverend Anthony Hash
>
> Efficiens omnia per Christum
>
>
>
> Presiding Bishop
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:46:17 -0700
> From: Sam'l B <samlb at samlb.ws>
> Subject: Re: [Oldcath-l] What to do
> To: xlnctony at uacatholicchurch.org, Old Catholic Discussion List
> <oldcath-l at stsams.org>
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> On 08/05/2009 06:55 PM, Bishop Anthony wrote:
>
> > Obviously this person is in no way ready to even be a Deacon much less a
> > priest.
>
> You said it right there -- he needs a few more years of study and
> service (diakonia) before he goes any farther. Being a responsible
> grown-up who is ready and willing to minister to the needs of real
> people is the bottom line.
>
> You might want to prepare yourself to be whined and pouted at. ;-)
>
> +Sam'l
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:24:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Fr. Gregory Ned Blevins" <frgregacca at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Oldcath-l] What to do
> To: xlnctony at uacatholicchurch.org, Old Catholic Discussion List
> <oldcath-l at stsams.org>
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> Is this deacon involved with one of your communities, or are they on their
own, isolated?
>
> M'shlama,
> Greg+
>
> --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Bishop Anthony <xlnctony at uacatholicchurch.org> wrote:
>
> > From: Bishop Anthony <xlnctony at uacatholicchurch.org>
> > Subject: [Oldcath-l] What to do
> > To: "Old Cath List" <oldcath-l at stsams.org>
> > Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 9:55 PM
> > Had not seen much on the list so I
> > thought I would throw a problem out for
> > discussion.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a Deacon that has had a series of health challenges
> > over the past
> > year. I waited to hear from the Deacon, sent 2 official
> > letters one removing
> > them from the seminary program, the second saying the
> > deacon would be put on
> > our inactive list by a certain date, along with regular
> > Church mailings. I
> > heard nothing.
> >
> >
> >
> > I thought to give it one more try and emailed. This time
> > received a
> > response! We met and went through the regular its not my
> > fault stuff and I
> > was sick. I asked the Deacon what was I to do? And of
> > course they want to
> > pick up right where they left off (after almost a year of
> > absence) and study
> > for ordination.
> >
> >
> >
> > So I asked the vocation question, ?Why do you want to be
> > Ordained.? What
> > followed was on going ramblings of about 5 minutes which
> > boils down to, that
> > it is the highest and most amazing thing a person could do
> > to bring down the
> > God-head and for worship and the fact that the Deacon just
> > HAD to be able to
> > do this, then at the last second as if an after thought,
> > ?so I can do this
> > for people.?
> >
> >
> >
> > Obviously this person is in no way ready to even be a
> > Deacon much less a
> > priest.
> >
> >
> >
> > What are your recommendations? Should I give this Deacon a
> > chance? Help them
> > to see that a vocation is not about self but about God and
> > his people? Or
> > just drop them?
> >
> >
> >
> > ? ? ? ? ???Thanks for
> > all of your thoughts on this issue!
> >
> >
> >
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> > ? ???+Tony
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Most Reverend Anthony Hash
> >
> > Efficiens omnia per Christum
> >
> >
> >
> > Presiding Bishop
> >
> > The United American Catholic Church
> >
> > Ut Omnes Unum Sint
> >
> >
> >
> > UACC Mission Statement : The United American Catholic
> > Church is called to be
> > a Missional Church offering every person a spiritual home
> > wherein each is
> > empowered to live a Gospel-based life and to fulfill the
> > Great Commission of
> > Jesus Christ*
> >
> > Declaraci?n de Misi?n de la ICAU: La Iglesia Cat?lica
> > Americana es llamada a
> > ser una iglesia misional que ofrece a cada persona un hogar
> > espiritual en
> > donde cada uno est? habilitado para vivir una vida basada
> > en el Evangelio y
> > para cumplir con la Gran Comisi?n de Jesucristo*
> >
> > Click here for Web:? <http://www.UACatholicChurch.org>
> > WWW.UACatholicChurch.org
> >
> >
> >
> > Pastor
> >
> > Saint Joan of Arc
> >
> > United American Catholic Church
> >
> > Virginia Beach, Virginia
> >
> > <http://www.saintjoan-vabeach.org>
> > www.saintjoan-vabeach.org
> >
> >
> >
> > Phone:
> > Cell? ? ? ? (757) 282-3922
> >
> > Church???(757) 392-1727
> >
> > Toll Free (877) 267-2132
> >
> >
> >
> > Mailing Address:
> > PO Box 61273
> >
> > Virginia Beach, VA 23466-1273
> >
> >
> >
> > Click here for Church Supplies:
> > <http://stores.ebay.com/Catholic-Gifts-and-Treasures>
> > http://stores.ebay.com/Catholic-Gifts-and-Treasures
> >
> > Fun buttons:? <http://www.cafepress.com/uacc>
> > WWW.cafepress.com/uacc
> >
> >
> >
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