[Oldcath-l] Carfora vs. Vilatte Lines

Entrere at aol.com Entrere at aol.com
Sun Sep 17 15:04:46 EDT 2006


 
I agree.  Anyone I might ordain would receive a complete copy from me  :) 
(300+ pages :))
 
 
In a message dated 9/17/06 12:02:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
FrMarty_Patton at fuse.net writes:

+William,

You are right in the sense that there is too much  emphasis on licity,
however it is the person being consecrated's obligation  to know and check,
as much as possible, that his consecration is licit. The  consecrating
bishops have the obligation of providing the ordinand, both  priest and
bishop candidates, his valid lines. i.e. What gives him the  right to ordain
or consecrate a candidate to the priesthood or the  episcopate?

Apostolic Succession is very important to Old Catholic  Bishops and to
denigrate its importance is to say that anyone who wants to  declare himself
a pope or a bishop could do so with  impunity.

Traceable lines are mandatory to accepted standards. The only  requirement is
that they trace back as far as possible to a validly  consecrated individual.
Gul to Mathew meets those standards, therefore  Carfora meets the standard. 

I do agree that your quote is heard too  often in discussions "...my orders
are more valid than  yours."

Blessings,

+Marty






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